Posts by Mrs. Witness

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Me, the WT, and the "Separating Work"...

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

a little while ago a dear one referred to my trip to "bethel" and discussion with carey barber.

he asked if he could read them.

Mrs. Witness

Um, at the risk of getting slammed...I have to support OTWO on this one. I mean really, give the guy a break. AGuest seems very well spoken and able to take care of herself and OTWO is trying to help her (and you readers).

I am incredulous that people who have been through and gotten out of the WTBTS are still so ready to believe things like this. Didn't your experience with the WTBTS teach you that religion is man made? Can't you then reason that most "mystical" and/or "hearing voices" experiences are either caused by things in the list that OTWO posted or (get ready for it)....they're downright lies?

OK, I'll back up now and wait for the slings and arrows to start flying my way.

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This week's Bible Highlights, verbatim quote: "Jehovah is a Killer..."

by Open mind in

it's amazing what you notice when you go through the bible again with a changed worldview.

this week's watchtower-assigned bible reading is the opening chapters of 1 samuel.

this little gem just jumped off the page at me:.

Mrs. Witness

I don't mean to argue, but I think that's a bit of a stretch. AND, if you compare one scripture to the myriad scriptures that detail God's killing sprees, Satan still has less.

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This week's Bible Highlights, verbatim quote: "Jehovah is a Killer..."

by Open mind in

it's amazing what you notice when you go through the bible again with a changed worldview.

this week's watchtower-assigned bible reading is the opening chapters of 1 samuel.

this little gem just jumped off the page at me:.

Mrs. Witness

Snowbird,

How many scriptures tell of how many people that Satan killed? Didn't God send the she-bear to kill the children? Didn't God tell the Isrealites to kill anyone and everyone that got in their way of the pursuit of the land of milk & honey? How about the flood? From what I know of the Bible, Satan is only accused of tempting people...I don't remember him killing anyone...torture maybe, but death?

Mrs. W

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Oh the joy!! Field Service

by donny in

this is another post on one of the many jw facebooks.

did any on you really look forward to it like this guy?

i never did.. donny.

Mrs. Witness

My JW looks forward to it. He spends almost all of Saturday and most of Sunday in service and with his "studies". He's even going to go to study with some guy in jail. I just don't get it. One thing, though, I have to say is that he has become a great salesman which helps him in his job. (Gotta look on the bright side...)

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I noticed at the meeting that JW's are very negative

by Iwonder17 in

so i have been a jw for yyeeaarrrrs :o(.

but it just hit me tonight during the prayer.

all you ever hear during the prayer is,.

Mrs. Witness

I told my JW the same thing. We were at my class reunion and I was talking to a friend about the last time we'd seen each other, which was at her father's funeral, so she said that she'd lost my phone number and that she'd been depressed for awhile after her father's death (naturally so), and hubby jumped right in and kept talking about depression & death. Geez.

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Interesting Thought about JW's and People Outside the Org

by Mrs. Witness in

on another thread, aude sapeare said:.

jws make this huge assumption that once you leave the 'protection' of the org, you will go off the deep end and become totally irresponsible, drink, smoke, do drugs and have sex with anyone and anything.. that is what i have been fighting with my husband about for 3 years now.

when he was kicked out of his jw's mom's house when he was 15, that is exactly what he did for about 20 years.

Mrs. Witness

Thx dgp. I throw that out at him every once in awhile. When I really want to piss him off, I sing it!

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Interesting Thought about JW's and People Outside the Org

by Mrs. Witness in

on another thread, aude sapeare said:.

jws make this huge assumption that once you leave the 'protection' of the org, you will go off the deep end and become totally irresponsible, drink, smoke, do drugs and have sex with anyone and anything.. that is what i have been fighting with my husband about for 3 years now.

when he was kicked out of his jw's mom's house when he was 15, that is exactly what he did for about 20 years.

Mrs. Witness

Saoirse, I agree, but try telling that to a JW who thinks that if he leaves the religion, he has no other choice but to sink into depravity. To him, all JW's are good people (even when I point out to him that there are some questionable people in his congo) and all worldly people are not to be trusted (even me--his wife).

It's all about control and responsibility. It's scary to him to have to control himself and make important decisions for himself & his family. It's easy to be a drug imbibing, promiscuous alchoholic. It's much harder to "be good for goodness sake" and realize that each & every decision you make has an impact on the other three people you live with/have responsibility for. If he's a JW, then he is controlled by the WTBTS & all his decisions are made easy because he has a mental check list of what is acceptable and not acceptable. If he can't make it from that, he runs to an elder. No thinking necessary. Here's what you wear, how you live, where you go, and who you associate with...all dictated by the F&DS. Lovely.

But I'm not bitter...

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Interesting Thought about JW's and People Outside the Org

by Mrs. Witness in

on another thread, aude sapeare said:.

jws make this huge assumption that once you leave the 'protection' of the org, you will go off the deep end and become totally irresponsible, drink, smoke, do drugs and have sex with anyone and anything.. that is what i have been fighting with my husband about for 3 years now.

when he was kicked out of his jw's mom's house when he was 15, that is exactly what he did for about 20 years.

Mrs. Witness

I hear ya Wobble & I agree. He's that type of guy and I think it was made worse because he was indoctrinated early. His mom is hard-core, too. He doesn't see that he has done all the good things that he's done. He always gives credit to JoeHoober. It's distressing.

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Interesting Thought about JW's and People Outside the Org

by Mrs. Witness in

on another thread, aude sapeare said:.

jws make this huge assumption that once you leave the 'protection' of the org, you will go off the deep end and become totally irresponsible, drink, smoke, do drugs and have sex with anyone and anything.. that is what i have been fighting with my husband about for 3 years now.

when he was kicked out of his jw's mom's house when he was 15, that is exactly what he did for about 20 years.

Mrs. Witness

On another thread, Aude Sapeare said:

JWs make this HUGE assumption that once you leave the 'protection' of the org, you will go off the deep end and become totally irresponsible, drink, smoke, do drugs and have sex with anyone and anything.

That is what I have been fighting with my husband about for 3 years now. When he was kicked out of his JW's mom's house when he was 15, that is exactly what he did for about 20 years. I can't get him to understand (even by my example) that you can be a good person without being a JW. To him, it goes hand in hand. He thinks that if he's not a JW, he has to be a depraved maniac. It drives me nutty!!

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November 15 2009 Watchtower (Study Edition) - Treasure Your Place in the Congregation...

by CrazyBlonde in

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thought this one was quite creepy - the article to be studied january 11-17 "treasure your place in the congregation", page 13 para 5 reads (italics mine):.

"the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience" is so widespread that it is like the air we breathe.

(eph.

Mrs. Witness

Can I get a scan? Just of this article. I'm going to flip a few words and show it to Mr. Witness to see his reaction. You know, change out "Jehovah's channel" for United States and stuff like that, show it to him, get his negative reaction to it, then put the Watchtower under his nose with the pertinent section highlighted.